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		<title>Why can&#8217;t I find a lawyer to appeal a hearing denial?</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/01/why-cant-i-find-a-lawyer-to-appeal-hearing-denial/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tomasz Stasiuk</dc:creator>
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Did you represent yourself at your Social Security disability hearing?
If you were denied, you may find it is difficult to find a lawyer to represent you if you 
Sadly, this is a common problem.  It is much harder to hire an attorney after you been denied.
Why?
It all comes down to TIME!  
You only have 65 day [...]]]></description>
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<p>Did you represent yourself at your Social Security disability hearing?</p>
<p>If you were denied, you may find it is difficult to find a lawyer to represent you if you </p>
<p>Sadly, this is a <strong>common problem</strong>.  It is <strong>much harder</strong> to hire an attorney after you been denied.</p>
<p>Why?<span id="more-1354"></span></p>
<p><strong>It all comes down to TIME!  </strong></p>
<p><strong></strong>You only have 65 day to appeal a hearing denial (5 days to receive the notice, and 60 days to get the appeal to Social Security).  Note:  the appeal must be received by the deadline. <em>Postmarked by the deadline is not enough</em>.</p>
<p>65 days is not a lot of time for a lawyer to do the following:</p>
<ul>
<li>Review the hearing decision</li>
<li>Review the exhibit file</li>
<li>Review your treating providers (doctors)</li>
<li>Check for missing evidence</li>
<li>Obtain missing evidence</li>
<li>Review the medical evidence</li>
<li>Prepare the legal argument for the appeal</li>
</ul>
<p>Keep in mind that lawyers often work with a client for <strong>more than a year</strong> to get their case ready for hearing. To take on a post hearing case requires compressing all that work into a month or less. </p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">This is another reason to hire an attorney early on your Social Security disability benefits case.  If you are working with an attorney before the hearing, they will probably help you if you need to appeal if you are denied at hearing.</span></strong></p>
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		<title>How long does it take to get an Appeals Council decision?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tomasz Stasiuk</dc:creator>
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If you have been denied at your Social Security hearing in front of an Administrative Law Judge (ALJ), you may end up having to file an appeal to the Social Security Appeals Council.  
In my experience handling Social Security disability cases in Colorado, it can take between 6 &#8211; 18 months to get a decision [...]]]></description>
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<p>If you have been denied at your Social Security hearing in front of an Administrative Law Judge (ALJ), you may end up having to file an appeal to the Social Security Appeals Council.  </p>
<p>In my experience handling Social Security disability cases in Colorado, it can take between <strong>6 &#8211; 18 months</strong> to get a decision back from the Appeals Council.  </p>
<p><strong>However, even if you &#8220;win&#8221; the appeal, that is not the end of your case.</strong> In the vast majority of cases, the Appeals Council does not approve benefits outright.  Normally, they simply send the case back for another hearing with instructions to the ALJ on what should be done next time.  </p>
<p>When your case gets sent back to the Office of Disability Adjudication and Review (ODAR), it may take <strong>another 6-18 months for the second hearing to be scheduled</strong>.  </p>
<p><strong>Altogether, you may be looking at 12 to 36 months before you get another chance to present your case even if you &#8220;win&#8221; your case at the Appeals Council!</strong></p>
<p>Note:  wait times at the Appeals Council, and particularly at the various ODAR offices around the country, vary quite a bit, so take this estimate with a grain of salt and get up to date information from a lawyer in your area.</p>
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		<title>Denied at your hearing? What you can do now</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2008/10/i-was-denied-at-hearing-what-do-i-do-now/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tomasz Stasiuk</dc:creator>
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If your Social Security case is denied after a hearing with an Administrative Law Judge (ALJ), you have a couple of options:
Appeal the ALJ&#8217;s decision to the Social Security Appeals Council
To do this, you need to file form HA-520-U5 &#8220;Request for Review of Hearing Decision/Order.&#8221;  
One benefit of appealing is that it preserves your entitlement to [...]]]></description>
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<p>If your Social Security case is denied after a hearing with an Administrative Law Judge (ALJ), you have a couple of options:</p>
<h3>Appeal the ALJ&#8217;s decision to the Social Security Appeals Council</h3>
<p>To do this, you need to file form HA-520-U5 &#8220;<a title="Request for Review of Hearing Decision-Order" href="http://www.ssa.gov/online/ha-520.pdf" target="_blank">Request for Review of Hearing Decision/Order.</a>&#8221;  </p>
<p>One benefit of appealing is that it preserves your entitlement to <strong>past benefits</strong>.  Whereas, if you start a <em>new</em> claim, you normally lose your entitlement to the back benefits from the just-denied claim.  </p>
<p>So, generally, if you can continue to appeal the current claim, you may get <strong>more back benefits</strong> that on a new claim.  </p>
<p>There are exceptions to this, including the possibility of reopening a <em>prior</em> claim during a <em>new</em> claim.  If the Judge decides to reopen the prior claim, you might not lose <em>any</em> back benefit.</p>
<p>However, there is <em>no guarantee</em> that you will be able to reopen a prior case.  You have to meet additional requirements to <em>request</em> a reopening, and, more importantly, the choice of whether to reopen a prior claim is <strong>discretionary</strong>.  If the Judge decides <em>not</em> to reopen the prior claim &#8211; that&#8217;s it!  In my experience in Colorado, <em>judges generally do not like to disturb a prior judge&#8217;s decision</em>.</p>
<p>So, you do not want to count too much on reopening a prior claim. I warn my clients not to expect that a prior claim will be reopened if they have to start a new application. </p>
<p><span id="more-228"></span></p>
<h3>Start a new claim from scratch by filing a new application  </h3>
<p>You may be wondering:</p>
<blockquote><p>Why would any one want to start a new claim when an appeal may get me more benefits?</p></blockquote>
<p>The answer is that if you &#8220;win&#8221; at the Appeals Council, chances are that they will not approve your case outright. Instead, the Appeals Council typically will only vacate (throw out) the prior decision and <strong>send the case back</strong> for another hearing with specific instructions about what needs to be done differently at the second hearing. </p>
<p>So, even if you win, you just get a &#8220;<strong>do-over.</strong>&#8221;</p>
<p>Here is the real kicker.  The hearing will most likely be with the <strong>same Judge</strong>.  I have seen quite a few cases where the Judge simply did not believe my claimant, or their doctors. Having another hearing with the same just is not much of a victory.</p>
<p>Sometimes, it is just better to <strong>start fresh</strong> with a new claim.  If the case has to go to hearing again, it will probably get a <strong>different Judge</strong>.  Of course, there is no guarantee you <em>wont</em> get the same judge, but, by filing a new claim, you have a significantly better chance of getting a new judge.</p>
<h3>Which is faster?  A new claim or an Appeals Council appeal?</h3>
<p>It is too close to call.  Both can take more than two years to get back in front of a judge.  The main exception is <em><strong>if</strong></em> there has been a significant change in the case which might cause Social Security to approve a new claim at the initial review level.  Since the initial review takes only 4-6 months, under these circumstances, a new claim <em>might</em> be faster.  </p>
<h3>In some case, you cannot reapply</h3>
<p>There are several situations where you <strong>cannot</strong> reapply for Social Security:</p>
<ol>
<li>You are beyond your &#8220;Date Last Insured (DLI).&#8221; See my article about this <a title="Date Last Insured" href="http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2008/08/date-last-insured/" target="_self">here</a>. DLI only applies in Disability Insurance cases, so if you are applying for SSI, this will not prevent you from applying.  </li>
<li>If you are applying for SSI, your spouse&#8217;s income or other household income may make financially ineligible for SSI.  Strictly speaking this does not keep you from applying, but you may quickly get a denial for <a title="Do I financially qualify for SSI" href="http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/04/do-i-qualify-financially-for-ssi/">financial ineligibility</a>.</li>
</ol>
<h3>Deadlines for Appealing a Hearing Denial</h3>
<p>Normally, you have 5 days to receive the denial and 60 days to submit the appeal. Check your paperwork for the specific dates.  Also, keep in mind that it is not 60 days to <em>mail</em> the appeal.  The appeal has to be <em>received</em> at the Appeal&#8217;s Council (the address is in the denial) by the 60th day.</p>
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		<title>Denied at hearing? Here&#8217;s how to appeal the Judge&#8217;s decision to Social Security Appeals Council</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tomasz Stasiuk</dc:creator>
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If you are denied at your Social Security hearing by the Administrative Law Judge (ALJ), you have the right to appeal the judge&#8217;s decision to the Social Security Appeals Council.  
To do this, you need to file form HA-520-U5 &#8220;Request for Review of Hearing Decision/Order.&#8221;  You only have 60 + 5 days to get the [...]]]></description>
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<p>If you are denied at your Social Security hearing by the Administrative Law Judge (ALJ), you have the right to appeal the judge&#8217;s decision to the Social Security Appeals Council.  </p>
<p>To do this, you need to file form HA-520-U5 &#8220;<a title="Request for Review of Hearing Decision-Order" href="http://www.ssa.gov/online/ha-520.pdf" target="_blank">Request for Review of Hearing Decision/Order.</a>&#8221;  You only have 60 + 5 days to get the appeal to the Appeals Council from the date stamped on the judge&#8217;s decision (5 days to receive the decision and 60 days to deliver the appeal).  </p>
<p><strong>Note:  The appeal must be delivered by the 65th day!</strong>  Unlike filing your taxes, postmarking the letter on the 65th day is not enough.  The appeal <em>must</em> be in the Appeal Council&#8217;s hands no later than the last day. </p>
<p>There is the possibility of filing late with the Appeal Council&#8217;s permission, but that is <em>not</em> something you want to count on.  </p>
<p>Here are a couple of things to keep in mind about the appeal. <span id="more-229"></span></p>
<ol>
<li>The Appeals Council will not hold a hearing on the appeal.  The Appeals Council only does a &#8220;paper review&#8221; of the file.  </li>
<li>This means you must provide all your reasons for appealing and everything you disagree about the ALJ&#8217;s decision as early as possible; preferably along with the appeal.</li>
<li>Because the appeal form does not provide a lot of room to explain what you disagree with, attorneys often add a supplemental brief.</li>
<li>The Appeals Council mostly looks for <em>legal</em> arguments:  did the judge misapply the law?  While you can argue that the &#8220;facts&#8221; in the decision were incorrect (in legal terms:  that the judge&#8217;s findings were not supported by substantial evidence), the Appeals Council is mostly interested in whether the proper <em>process</em> was followed.  Because the Appeals Council is much more legalistic than the earlier appeals, you really should have an attorney helping you. </li>
<li>The Appeals Council usually will not upset a judge&#8217;s factual determinations &#8211; <em>even if they would have come to different determinations themselves</em> &#8211; if there is a basis for the judge&#8217;s findings.  <strong>This is a critical point.</strong> The Appeals Council does not want to step into the judge&#8217;s shoes about findings of fact if they can help it. However, if there is a <em>significant</em> factual error which is not supported by substantial evidence, I <em>will</em> include it in my arguments. </li>
<li>If you think the ALJ misquoted the testimony, or if you want to review the hearing tape for other reasons, you can request a copy of the hearing record. I previously wrote about this <a title="How to Request Hearing Tapes" href="http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2008/01/denied-at-hearing-request-the-hearing-tapes/" target="_self">here</a>.</li>
</ol>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">Practice tip: </span></strong> When I request the hearing tape, I file the appeal form with a cover letter requesting the hearing tape AND 30 days after the recording is sent to me to provide a supplemental argument based on the tape.  Note: the Appeals Council usually grants a shorter amount of time, but it is still useful to ask for 30 days.</p>
<p><strong>If possible, do not wait until you are denied at hearing to hire an attorney.</strong> Many attorneys will not take a case if they hired after the hearing because there is very little time to review the hearing decision, become familiar with the evidence, and prepare a legal argument for the Appeals Council.  </p>
<p>It is much better to get an attorney <strong>before</strong> the hearing. If the case needs to be appealed to the Appeals Council, that attorney is already up to speed on the case.</p>
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