A quickie article answering a common question: can you garnish Social Security disability benefits for child support?

Title 2 Disability Insurance (aka SSDI or DIB) benefits can be garnished for child support.

However, Title 16 Supplemental Security Income (aka SSI) benefits cannot be garnished. 

This is general information only and not legal advice. Contact a lawyer for advice on your specific circumstances.

SSDI and SSI provide different medical benefits:

• Supplemental Security Income provides Medicaid benefits which can pay for treatment, specialists and surgeries.
• Social Security disability insurance provides Medicare benefits, including Medicare Part D, which pays for prescription drugs.

If you get both SSDI and SSI, you may be able to get both Medicare and Medicaid.

Getting both SSDI and SSI is also helpful in mitigating the 5 month waiting period in SSDI cases. While you may not be able to get your Disability Insurance during the first 5 months, you may still be able to get SSI benefits during that time.

Keep in mind that this requires the alleged onset date to be the same as the protected filing date because of the limits on back benefits in SSI cases.

I recently wrote about the difference between Social Security disability insurance (SSDI) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI).

But, can you get both: SSI and SSDI?

Depending on your circumstances, yes. 

The maximum you can receive on SSI is based on the annual Federal Benefit Rate (FBR).  For 2009, the FBR is $674.  That mean the most you can receive on SSI in $674 per month.  

Disability Insurance Benefits are based on your payroll contribution to Social Security.  The more you have paid into Social Security, the more in monthly benefits you may be entitled to.  

The only way to get both SSDI and SSI is for your SSDI benefits to be less than the Federal Benefit Rate (FBR). 

If that happens, and you qualify financially for SSI, you can also get Supplemental Security Income to pay up to the Federal Benefit rate.

I realize this may sound like a bunch of legalistic gobbledygook. So, here is a quick example:

Let’s say you only qualify for $500 per month in Social Security disability insurance benefits. 

SSI may pay you an additional $174 to bring your total monthly benefits up to the Federal Benefit rate.

However, if you get $700 from SSDI, you will probably get nothing from SSI, because you already are receiving more than the $674 Federal Benefit Rate in SSDI.

We previously discussed Social Security’s Disability Insurance Benefit (DIB) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) programs.

The big difference between DIB and SSI is type of income which affects eligibility. 

Under the “Disability Insurance” Program, Social Security considers whether you are working and earning money (engaging in a Substantial Gainful Activity – SGA). If you earn too much money as income, you may be denied Social Security DIB benefits.  Of course, there are some exceptions.

In other words, if you are applying for Disability Insurance Benefits, your earnings, if any, may make you ineligible.  But, other sources of money: gifts, prizes, winnings, settlements, and even spouses income, are NOT counted in determining eligibility.

Under Supplemental Security Income, all income: your earnings, your spouse’s earnings, gifts, settlements, and in children’s cases: household income, can make you financially ineligible to receive SSI.  SSI is a ”needs based” program and a program of last resort, if you have another source of income, then your “needs” are viewed as decreased.

In addition to income, SSI also considers your assets in determining eligibility. The plot of land you own, those shares of stock you received, most any assets you have may make you ineligible for SSI.

HOWEVER, the income and asset rules are so complicated and have so many exceptions that you do not want to jump to conclusions about whether or not you may be eligible.  This is something you will want to go over with Social Security.

Is there a difference between Disability Insurance (DIB) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefit amounts?

Yes. The maximum you can receive on SSI is based on the annual Federal Benefit Rate (FBR).  For 2009, the FBR is $674.  That mean the most you can receive on SSI in $674 per month.  

Generally, Disability Insurance Benefits are based on your payroll contribution to Social Security.  The more you have paid into Social Security, the more in monthly benefits you may be entitled to.  

If you want to get an idea of how much you may be entitled if you become disabled, Social Security has online benefit calculators which can estimate benefits amounts.  Social Security also mails you a “Social Security Statement” every year before your birthday which describes your estimated benefits.

If you are disabled, how far back will Social Security pay benefits? Back to when the disabiilty began?

It depends on whether you are applying for Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI or DIB), or Supplemental Security Income (SSI).

Social Security Supplemental Security Income (SSI) pays benefits back to the “Protected Filing Date (PFD),” the date you contacted Social Security and asked to apply for benefits.

Social Security Disability Insurance, on the other hand, pays benefits up to 12 months before the Protected Filing Date.  However, you should also keep in mind the “5 month waiting period.”

Note: these are maximum back benefit payments. Social Security has to find you disabled back to the PFD (for SSI) or 12 months before the PFD (for SSDI) to get those back benefits.

If you apply for Social Security Disability Insurance benefits (SSDI or DIB), you may be surprised that Social Security keeps the first 5 months of back benefits.

This is referred to as the “5 month waiting period.”

If you awarded benefits back to January 1st, Social Security actually keeps the benefits for January, February, March… all the way through May.  Your disability insurance benefits will start in June.  

What?!?!  But, it is my money!

I know! But, that is how the system works!

However, there is an exception to the 5 month waiting period.

Bear with me while I go over some basics:  Disability Insurance benefits can only be paid 12 months prior to the Protected Filing Date (PFD). 

If your PFD is January 2009, at most you can get benefits back to January 2008. If your Alleged Onset Date (AOD) is January 2008, Social Security applies the 5 month waiting period (keeping your benefits for January through May) and your benefits begin to paid as of June 2008.  

Here is the exception to the 5 month waiting period: if your Alleged Onset Date (AOD) is 5 months or more BEFORE the 12 month maximum back payment period, you do not lose 5 months of benefits?

What? Go over that part again.

Let me put it another way. If your Alleged Onset Date is 17 (or more) months before the protected filing date (PFD), you are eligible to get the maximum 12 months of back benefits prior to Protected Filing Date.

Just keep in mind that you cannot just pick a date 17 months before you applied as your Alleged Onset Date (AOD) and leave it at that.  You have to prove you were disabled back to the Alleged Onset Date. The further back you have prove your disability, the more difficult your case becomes.

Updated 06/05/09.

Can a person work and still receive Social Security disability benefits or Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits?

The answer is a qualified “yes.”

Social Security wants people to try to go back to work. But, the regulations surrounding keeping your benefits while you try to go back to work make it tricky.

Are you engaged in a Substantial Gainful Activity?

Generally speaking, the test of disability is whether you can perform a substantial gainful activity (SGA)? That is, are your monthly gross earnings (income before taxes and deduction) equal to, or greater than the Substantial Gainful Activity amounts set by Social Security.

In 2009, if you are making at least $980 per month, before taxes, your work is a substantial gainful activity. To see the current SGA amount, or SGA amount for other years, click here.

So, if I my gross income is the SGA amount, or more, I have a problem,

But, if my monthlty gross income is less than SGA, Social Security will leave me alone.

That is generally correct and it is a good rule of thumb.

However, and this is a big however, this is not the end of the analysis. There are exceptions to allow your benefits to continue if you are earning more than SGA and exceptions that might stop your benefits even if you are earning less than SGA.

If you are receiving Supplemental Security Income, you can earn more than the SGA amount and still receive your SSI benefits. But, that is an article in itself.

If you earn more than the SGA amount:

There are a number of exceptions to allow your benefits to continue even if you earn more than the substantial gainful activity amount. Let’s take a look at them.

Unsuccessful Work Attempt (UWA)

Did the work last for less than 6 months? If yes, the work may qualify as an unsuccessful work attempt or UWA. This is the most common way to continue benefits if you return to work and earn more than the SGA amount.

Simply put, if you work at or above the SGA level for up to six months but have to stop because of your disability, as opposed to being laid off, or quitting, the work may be an unsuccessful work attempt.

There are a number of requirements for an unsuccessful work attempt, read about them here.

Impairment Related Work Expenses (IRWE)

If your work is performed at a SGA level, you may be able to reduce the income SSA considers through Impairment Related Work Expenses (IRWEs).  Any medically necessary expenses related to your impairment which are necessary to allow you to work may be deducted from your gross income as an IRWE.

For example: if you have a disabling seizure disorder.  However, due to a new medication, your seizure disorder is controlled enough to allow you to go back to work.  The medications, doctors visits, and blood tests to test the level of medication in you blood stream may all be IRWEs and might reduce your income.

Subsidy

A subsidy is any compensation over the fair value of your work.  This often happens if you work for a family member or if you work through an agency like Goodwill.

If you are paid for a 40 hour week but you only work 25 hours, you have a 15 hour subsidy.  Another possibility is if the value of your work is $8.00 an hour, but you are paid $10.00 an hour (a $2.00 an hour subsidy).

If you subtract the subsidy, and your gross income is below the SGA amount, you might still be able to keep your Social Security benefits. Click for more information about subsidies.

Trial Work Period

If you are receiving Disability Insurance (not SSI), Social Security allows you a Trial Work Period: you can go back to work, and earn even more than the SGA amount, and still be considered disabled, for 9 months.

Click for more information about Trial Work Periods.

Even if you earn LESS THAN the SGA amount watch out!

Any work may create the impression that an individual is not really disabled.  That is the greatest risk of going back to work.

I have heard too many stories of Social Security stopping benefits and even claiming an overpayment, because they thought a person who had gone back to work was never disabled in the first place, or that their disability stopped months or years ago.

Performing a job at a non-SGA level, may suggest the ability to perform other work at a SGA level.

you could do a different job at a SGA amount.  Therefore, you are not disabled and your benefits should stop.

An extreme example of this is working a part time construction or labor job.

• You may be limited to only being able to do this work part-time.
• Your earnings may be less than the SGA amount.
• BUT, if you can do part-time construction, doesn’t that mean you may be able to do full time (SGA) work at an easier job, for example as an information clerk.

Lets get real here:  if there is a less demanding full time SGA job that you can perform, your disability benefits will be questioned sooner or later and you may be assessed an overpayment.

Are you structuring your work to be less than the SGA amount?

If you are keeping your hours below a certain amount, not for a medical reason, but just to earn less than the SGA amount, you are committing fraud.

Your benefits will probably be stopped, and you are looking at an overpayment and will probably have to repay Social Security. But things, can get much worse: Social Security may also refer your case to the Attorney Generals office for federal prosecution.

Do not game the system.  It is not worth it.

I saw this question in the comments on Jonathan Ginsberg’s site, Social Security Disability Blog:

I would like to know if a convicted felon, who is not incarcerated, can receive Title 16 SSI disability?

This is a great wrinkle on our current discussion on the effect of incarceration on Social Security disability benefits, including SSI.  I encourage anyone interested in this topic to bookmark this link and check back as I will be adding articles to the subject in the days and weeks to come.  

As a Social Security lawyer in Colorado, I have worked with a number of individuals with felonies and helped them get their Social Security benefits including Title 16 SSI benefits.

I am not aware of any circumstance where the fact of a prior felony prevents someone from receiving Social Security disability benefits as a result of the charge being a felony rather than a misdemeanor.

It does matter during incarceration whether the conviction is for a felony (you cannot get benefits) or misdemeanor (according to SSA you may still be able to get benefits). 

There may be some set of circumstances which would change this, but I cannot think of one.  So, “yes,” you can get SSI benefits even if you have been convicted of a felony. However, you still have to qualify for SSI and there has to be no other problem that might keep you from getting benefits.

Social Security benefits will be going up in 2009.

Monthly Social Security and Supplemental Security Income benefits for more than 55 million Americans will increase 5.8 percent in 2009, the Social Security Administration announced today.  The 5.8 percent increase is the largest since 1982.

Social Security Announces Benefit Increase for 2009.

Social Security has two different benefit programs for individuals who are disabled.

• Disability Insurance Benefits (DIB, also known as SSDI, or Title 2 benefits); and
• Supplemental Security Income (SSI or Title 16 benefits).

Because of its name, it is a common misconception that must apply for “Disability Insurance” if you are disabled. Actually, both programs provide disability benefits.  

What is Disability Insurance Benefits (DIB)?

Generally, Disability Insurance Benefits are based on your payroll contribution to Social Security.  To qualify for DIB, you have to have earned enough Social Security credits, in the right time frame, by paying into Social Security through payroll taxes.  

There are several circumstances in which you may not have enough credits for Social Security Disability Insurance:

• If you have never worked.
• You worked so long ago that you are past your date last insured.  
• Instead of paying into Social Security, you paid into a state program (such as PERA). 

In each of these cases, you might not be eligible for Disability Insurance (DIB).
Please note that this is just an overview.  There are several circumstances in which you may still be eligible for Social Security Disability Insurance (DIB) even if you do not have not have enough credits under your own earnings, including:  

• Social Security Disability Insurance (DIB) based on a spouse’s, or former spouse’s, earnings.
• Widow/er’s benefits and Children’s benefits when a spouse/parent dies.
• DAC (Disabled Adult Child) benefits.

It is often a good idea to speak with Social Security if you think you may qualify for one of these other types of Social Security Disability Insurance Benefits (DIB).

What is Supplemental Security Income (SSI)?

Even if you are not eligible for DIB, you may still be able to apply for SSI.  

Supplemental Security Income is a Social Security program which provides disability benefits to the following groups:

• Children, 
• Adults who have never worked; and 
• Adults who do not have enough quarters of coverage, or are past their date last insured.

Between a Rock and Hard Place:

Is it possible to not be eligible for either Disability Insurance Benefits (DIB) or Supplemental Security Income (SSI)?

Sadly, yes.

If you cannot prove your disability prior to your date last insured, and your spouse makes too much money (or you have another problematic source of income), it is possible that you may not qualify for either DIB or SSI.  This is the proverbial between a rock and a hard place.

Which Program Should I Apply For?

In my opinion, apply for both.  Do not rule out your eligibility for a particular Social Security program. When you apply, Social Security will determine which benefit program(s) you are eligible for and will help you file the application. However, if you want to know if you will qualify for either program, Social Security has a website where you can see what benefits you may be eligible for.

But, Wait!  There’s More.

Once again, this is just a quick overview of DIB and SSI.  There are differences between Social Security Disability Insurance (DIB) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) which I will address in other articles.