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	<title>Comments on: The subjective nature of pain and the disability case</title>
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		<title>By: Mccarty Debra</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-3499</link>
		<dc:creator>Mccarty Debra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have sleep apnea and herinated disc., High Blood pressure,and my knees are going out anyone have any suggestions?
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		<title>By: Mlwnjlawyer</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-3162</link>
		<dc:creator>Mlwnjlawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What state are you in?  Did you find help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What state are you in?  Did you find help?</p>
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		<title>By: Mlwnjlawyer</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-3161</link>
		<dc:creator>Mlwnjlawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What state do you live in?  Were you represented by an attorney?  Was this appealed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What state do you live in?  Were you represented by an attorney?  Was this appealed?</p>
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		<title>By: Mlwnjlawyer</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-3160</link>
		<dc:creator>Mlwnjlawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great website.  Very informative; interesting articles.
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		<title>By: TomaszStasiuk</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-2839</link>
		<dc:creator>TomaszStasiuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 05:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the case is denied, the number one issue is the appeal. Your lawyer can discuss the process with you and your options. New evidence may be submitted with the appeal. However, there are limitations. Your lawyer can walk your through them and help you decide whether the new evidence can be submitted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the case is denied, the number one issue is the appeal. Your lawyer can discuss the process with you and your options. New evidence may be submitted with the appeal. However, there are limitations. Your lawyer can walk your through them and help you decide whether the new evidence can be submitted.</p>
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		<title>By: Iceedesire</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-2838</link>
		<dc:creator>Iceedesire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 05:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes i did talk to a lawyer he was there during the trial and when i talked to him after i got the letter he said that it seems that they didnt take in to account my back... even though they have xrays of my back getting progressively worse. he when he was allowed to talk to the &quot;work placement person&quot; he asked if a person that could not stand for more than 20 mins at times and could not sit for more than 30 min. and some times had to lay down for  a bit to relieve the pain and the guy said no there was no job that would let a person do that ... but it was just like the judge didnt take my back problems in to account or my anger problems... i dont know if it is cause of the evidence that they got from 4-courners is the problem or the info they got from dr hiner did it.. but on the 26 i am meeting with a back specialist and i dont know i his findings will make a difference should i send in that info when i send it to review </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes i did talk to a lawyer he was there during the trial and when i talked to him after i got the letter he said that it seems that they didnt take in to account my back&#8230; even though they have xrays of my back getting progressively worse. he when he was allowed to talk to the &#8220;work placement person&#8221; he asked if a person that could not stand for more than 20 mins at times and could not sit for more than 30 min. and some times had to lay down for  a bit to relieve the pain and the guy said no there was no job that would let a person do that &#8230; but it was just like the judge didnt take my back problems in to account or my anger problems&#8230; i dont know if it is cause of the evidence that they got from 4-courners is the problem or the info they got from dr hiner did it.. but on the 26 i am meeting with a back specialist and i dont know i his findings will make a difference should i send in that info when i send it to review</p>
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		<title>By: TomaszStasiuk</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-2837</link>
		<dc:creator>TomaszStasiuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 23:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like there is a lot going on in your case. Have your tried working with a lawyer to help make your case more understandable to SSA? 

Note: keep in mind that there are time limits on appealing any denials. These are discussed in detail in the decision notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like there is a lot going on in your case. Have your tried working with a lawyer to help make your case more understandable to SSA? </p>
<p>Note: keep in mind that there are time limits on appealing any denials. These are discussed in detail in the decision notice.</p>
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		<title>By: Iceedesire</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-2833</link>
		<dc:creator>Iceedesire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 04:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all i can figure is that the dr that was there in the court room with out ever meeting me down played everything that was wrong he moved everything from moderate/ serious down to mild and my dr that i first started seeing who is now retired put in that I &quot; over reacted&quot; to the pain that is in my back my new dr that i just started seeing last month believes that i was told wrong as to what is  the problem the dr that i first started seeing tried for 4 months to get a mri ok&#039;d to see what was truly wrong but he was not sending in the right info to get it approved i think it is cause he didnt want to do anything in truth.. all he did was put me on perks and well they just made matters worse they made me sick and when i told him this he just ignored it and told me it was them or nothing... the mental doctors that i am forced to go to cause i am on state insurance dont believe in some of the things that even the ssi therapist found was wrong they call black outs due to anger where i dont remember what happens in that time disassociation and i know that is not what it is cause i act out when those times hit i even throw a spatula at a friend ... and well after i came back to me is the only way i can explain it i found part of the spatula but never found the rest... I just dont know what i have to do to make the courts believe what is going on when even my thearpist that i am made to go to dont treat what is wrong... I really dont know what went wrong in the case i am still trying to understand the letter that they sent to tell me the bad news. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all i can figure is that the dr that was there in the court room with out ever meeting me down played everything that was wrong he moved everything from moderate/ serious down to mild and my dr that i first started seeing who is now retired put in that I &#8221; over reacted&#8221; to the pain that is in my back my new dr that i just started seeing last month believes that i was told wrong as to what is  the problem the dr that i first started seeing tried for 4 months to get a mri ok&#8217;d to see what was truly wrong but he was not sending in the right info to get it approved i think it is cause he didnt want to do anything in truth.. all he did was put me on perks and well they just made matters worse they made me sick and when i told him this he just ignored it and told me it was them or nothing&#8230; the mental doctors that i am forced to go to cause i am on state insurance dont believe in some of the things that even the ssi therapist found was wrong they call black outs due to anger where i dont remember what happens in that time disassociation and i know that is not what it is cause i act out when those times hit i even throw a spatula at a friend &#8230; and well after i came back to me is the only way i can explain it i found part of the spatula but never found the rest&#8230; I just dont know what i have to do to make the courts believe what is going on when even my thearpist that i am made to go to dont treat what is wrong&#8230; I really dont know what went wrong in the case i am still trying to understand the letter that they sent to tell me the bad news.</p>
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		<title>By: TomaszStasiuk</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-2831</link>
		<dc:creator>TomaszStasiuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 04:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The options for a hearing denial are 1) appeal, 2) reapply, or 3) drop it. Reapplying isn&#039;t always possible if the case involves a date last insured. 

However, the real question is what went wrong in the case? Was there insufficient evidence? Did doctors disagree? Was there non-compliance with medical treatment? Was drug abuse / alcoholism an issue? Maybe the evidence was good but the judge just wasn&#039;t buying it. If you don&#039;t know what went wrong, you don&#039;t really know what to fix next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The options for a hearing denial are 1) appeal, 2) reapply, or 3) drop it. Reapplying isn&#8217;t always possible if the case involves a date last insured. </p>
<p>However, the real question is what went wrong in the case? Was there insufficient evidence? Did doctors disagree? Was there non-compliance with medical treatment? Was drug abuse / alcoholism an issue? Maybe the evidence was good but the judge just wasn&#8217;t buying it. If you don&#8217;t know what went wrong, you don&#8217;t really know what to fix next time.</p>
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		<title>By: Iceedesire</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-2830</link>
		<dc:creator>Iceedesire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 01:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi My case was just denied by a judge i have no disk between my l4 -l5 verts in my back as well bi polor and personality disorder, i was told that there are two jobs that i can do now mind you i can not stand for very long and i cant sit that long as well with out mega pain there is times that i have to leave to go lay down on the bed to try and help the pain... I was told to try pain killers but they make me sick and puts me in more pain. I have tried perks and loratabs and its the same story with both... i dont know how to proceed from here... they said i can be a medical assembler, plastics and a semi - conductor bonder but i live out in the country side not in a city and they they selfs said that i was limited on driveing ... i really dont know how to fight this or where to go from here any help would be great

Thank you </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi My case was just denied by a judge i have no disk between my l4 -l5 verts in my back as well bi polor and personality disorder, i was told that there are two jobs that i can do now mind you i can not stand for very long and i cant sit that long as well with out mega pain there is times that i have to leave to go lay down on the bed to try and help the pain&#8230; I was told to try pain killers but they make me sick and puts me in more pain. I have tried perks and loratabs and its the same story with both&#8230; i dont know how to proceed from here&#8230; they said i can be a medical assembler, plastics and a semi &#8211; conductor bonder but i live out in the country side not in a city and they they selfs said that i was limited on driveing &#8230; i really dont know how to fight this or where to go from here any help would be great</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: TomaszStasiuk</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-1998</link>
		<dc:creator>TomaszStasiuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff, 
Again, it sounds good. However, if I had a working crystal ball, I&#039;d be at the racetrack! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff,<br />
Again, it sounds good. However, if I had a working crystal ball, I&#8217;d be at the racetrack! <img src='http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeffmtrimble</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-1967</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffmtrimble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi tom,all the disabilty examiner told me after his report is that hes gonna tell social security in his report that i can&#039;t work due to chronic pain.i hope that this time around i will win my case.what is your input on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi tom,all the disabilty examiner told me after his report is that hes gonna tell social security in his report that i can&#8217;t work due to chronic pain.i hope that this time around i will win my case.what is your input on this.</p>
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		<title>By: TomaszStasiuk</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-1965</link>
		<dc:creator>TomaszStasiuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 01:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes, persistence makes all the difference.  I will keep my fingers crossed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes, persistence makes all the difference.  I will keep my fingers crossed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffmtrimble</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-1964</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffmtrimble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi,the disabilty examiner was a pyschologist.i have been fighting this disablity case for 3 yrs.but filed again in march of 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi,the disabilty examiner was a pyschologist.i have been fighting this disablity case for 3 yrs.but filed again in march of 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: TomaszStasiuk</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-1963</link>
		<dc:creator>TomaszStasiuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff, It sounds good. However, a lot depends on what the consultative examiner puts in his/her report and what the other evidence says. You may want to take a look at the &quot;consultative examination&quot; articles: http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/tag/consultative-examination/

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff, It sounds good. However, a lot depends on what the consultative examiner puts in his/her report and what the other evidence says. You may want to take a look at the &#8220;consultative examination&#8221; articles: <a href="http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/tag/consultative-examination/" rel="nofollow">http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/tag/consultative-examination/</a></p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffmtrimble</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-1962</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffmtrimble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi,i have a question i went to go see a disabilty examiner a few days ago requested by social security.and the examiner told me that i couldnt do any type of work due to chronic pain.does that mean i might have won my case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi,i have a question i went to go see a disabilty examiner a few days ago requested by social security.and the examiner told me that i couldnt do any type of work due to chronic pain.does that mean i might have won my case.</p>
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		<title>By: M Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-1366</link>
		<dc:creator>M Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 23:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Social Security is very conservative in how it evaluates claims for disability.  It looks for objective, measurable medical findings.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes.  I&#039;d like to add that not only is Pain often immeasurable (except on an individual level), the impact of working in most professional industries is enormous.  How can a SSI case worker possibly understand the ramifications of someone being told by his or her employer that &quot;no one can be sick all the time?&quot;  Day after day, a sick worker may be despondent, chronically late, inattentive and achy!  We must remember that most jobs today fall under categories that are just by nature ill-suited for chronically ill people.  The most common job descriptions I see: &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;• MUST THRIVE ON FAST PACED, PRESSURED ENVIRONMENT&lt;br&gt;MULTI-TASKER, HIGH-ENERGY PERSON&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Get Real!  Most ongoing illnesses take all there is out of a body - let alone having to actually Concentrate and Produce once you actually make it to work!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Michelle  (&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:CEO@chronic-SMILES.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CEO@chronic-SMILES.org&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Social Security is very conservative in how it evaluates claims for disability.  It looks for objective, measurable medical findings.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes.  I&#39;d like to add that not only is Pain often immeasurable (except on an individual level), the impact of working in most professional industries is enormous.  How can a SSI case worker possibly understand the ramifications of someone being told by his or her employer that &#8220;no one can be sick all the time?&#8221;  Day after day, a sick worker may be despondent, chronically late, inattentive and achy!  We must remember that most jobs today fall under categories that are just by nature ill-suited for chronically ill people.  The most common job descriptions I see: </p>
<p>• MUST THRIVE ON FAST PACED, PRESSURED ENVIRONMENT<br />MULTI-TASKER, HIGH-ENERGY PERSON</p>
<p>Get Real!  Most ongoing illnesses take all there is out of a body &#8211; let alone having to actually Concentrate and Produce once you actually make it to work!</p>
<p>Michelle  (<a href="mailto:CEO@chronic-SMILES.org" rel="nofollow">CEO@chronic-SMILES.org</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: TomaszStasiuk</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-1328</link>
		<dc:creator>TomaszStasiuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 05:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete, thank you for the kind words.  You really made my day.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;if you are in Colorado, give me a call and I&#039;ll be happy to discuss your case. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you are in a different state call a lawyer close to you who specializes in Social Security cases. I believe you will get the best result if you can talk to someone in person. But that means finding a lawyer in your area.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wish you the very best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete, thank you for the kind words.  You really made my day.</p>
<p>if you are in Colorado, give me a call and I&#39;ll be happy to discuss your case. </p>
<p>If you are in a different state call a lawyer close to you who specializes in Social Security cases. I believe you will get the best result if you can talk to someone in person. But that means finding a lawyer in your area.  </p>
<p>I wish you the very best.</p>
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		<title>By: TomaszStasiuk</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-665</link>
		<dc:creator>TomaszStasiuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete, thank you for the kind words.  You really made my day.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;if you are in Colorado, give me a call and I&#039;ll be happy to discuss your case. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you are in a different state call a lawyer close to you who specializes in Social Security cases. I believe you will get the best result if you can talk to someone in person. But that means finding a lawyer in your area.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wish you the very best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete, thank you for the kind words.  You really made my day.</p>
<p>if you are in Colorado, give me a call and I&#39;ll be happy to discuss your case. </p>
<p>If you are in a different state call a lawyer close to you who specializes in Social Security cases. I believe you will get the best result if you can talk to someone in person. But that means finding a lawyer in your area.  </p>
<p>I wish you the very best.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Freudenberger</title>
		<link>http://www.socialsecurityinsider.com/2009/03/the-subjective-nature-of-pain-and-the-disability-case/comment-page-1/#comment-664</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Freudenberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you please shoot me an email of you check back on this stuff. I am in the exact predicament you are describing and feel like I am banging my head against a brick wall! I need help.&lt;br&gt;Please email me!&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:pete@ewillisgroup.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pete@ewillisgroup.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you please shoot me an email of you check back on this stuff. I am in the exact predicament you are describing and feel like I am banging my head against a brick wall! I need help.<br />Please email me!<br /><a href="mailto:pete@ewillisgroup.com" rel="nofollow">pete@ewillisgroup.com</a></p>
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